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another thing of joy and beauty(?) from Karl at

another thing of joy and beauty(?) from Karl at

Coverage of climate negotiations in Copenhagen has varied from dismal to dismaying. In the weeks before 15, 000 government reps and associated lobbyists hit the Danish capital, world media was already canvassing developing nations for their reaction to annual assistance of $US10 billion.

By and large they were angered and offended, pointing to the trillions of dollars so readily thrown at the banks and investment houses that caused the global financial crisis; to the genuine need for several hundred billion if anything is to be done to even mitigate the impacts they face; and to the 17-year-old commitment developed nations and particularly the US made at the 1992 Rio Earth Summit when the Framework Convention on Climate Change was created.

Developed nations, especially America, have already committed to help developing nations prevent, manage and adapt to climate change. They just haven’t done anything about it yet.

But all this protest seemed to disappear under fanfare headlines celebrating the fantastic financial commitment and auto-erotic back-patting of developed nations – approaching $US30billion over the next three years at last count. Put in perspective, that’s about 1 per cent of Australia’s GDP per year.

Developing nations are asking for 1 per cent of GDP of all developed economies because at a minimum this is the amount they’ll need. And because whether they knew that carbon dioxide was going to destroy the planet, wealthy nations have become wealthy by pumping out atmospheric Thalidomide for the last 200 or so years. And “polluter pays” is a long-established principle of international law.

At least, it used to be.

Despite the nice speeches, promises of future action and declarations of benevolent urgency, it seems genuine commitment, vision and solidarity are almost totally absent from the leaders on the world stage. But at least it’s been a good chance to get informed as all cultures of the world try to work together, right?


On December 7, drew attention to an allegation made in The Guardian (UK). More than 50 newspapers worldwide, in 20 languages across 45 countries including France, China, Dubai, America,  India, and Israel, had signed up to take “the unprecedented step of speaking with one voice through a common editorial. We do so because humanity faces a profound emergency”.

Indeed, the editorial was a thought out call for unity in action, with the potential by its unique nature and massive global readership to have some impact on politicians in Copenhagen.

But Fairfax chose inaction. According to The Guardian:

Two Australian papers, The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald, pulled out at a late stage after the election of climate change sceptic Tony Abbott as leader of the opposition Liberal party recast the country’s debate on green issues.

Instead Fairfax chose to run articles claiming that the Australian delegation was nearly 100-strong and would have a massive carbon footprint. By Fairfax’s new reality, this shouldn’t cause any anxiety because climate change is again nothing but a left-wing conspiracy… or free market opportunism… but it certainly isn’t real.

The fact that the Australian delegation was actually 60-strong for the very good reason that 24-hour discussions over several weeks in different languages – including sleep deprived Legalese – need an experienced and multiskilled support team didn’t seem worth a mention, let alone a retraction. Neither did the fact that Britain is already committed to emission reductions of at least 34 per cent by 2020; similarly, the EU, with its 27-member nations to at least 30 per cent.

Heaven forbid we should ‘act’ first.

Heaven forbid we should act at all.

God, who doesn’t need journalism to be objective, would surely not allow something as awful as man-made climate change loose in a world where we can safely rejoice in the wonders of nuclear power, war, cancer, deforestation, genocide, black Nazis, Tim Blair and NSW Labor.

Thanks Fairfax. What the hell was I thinking?

  • Europeons

    What the hell were you thinking? You haven’t started yet, dipshit. It’s very likely to stay that way.

    Enjoy your massive carbon faceplant.

  • Patrick Kelly

    Well! It seems that the Australian contingent runs in at 114 strong with a correspondingly massive “carbon footprint.” The delegation is more numerous than the either the British or the Indian contingents. Maybe those countries don’t need to engage in “24-hour discussions over several weeks in different languages – including sleep deprived Legalese” and perhaps they don’t need “an experienced and multiskilled support team.”

    Any way Rule 1 in this debate – Don’t let the facts interfere with a good story.

  • So we’re agreed:

    You have excellent logical fallacy and cognitive dissonance ONLY ability. Five stars for the Marxist critical theory and other radical product sodden activist screaming points. Outstanding. One owl badge for committing every turgid cliched bad writing offence as described by Orwell. Again, fantastic, fantastical even.

    Clearly bub, you are a wonderfully unread and mass indoctrinated affluent phony ecofascist brat, living in a fantasy life completely supported by the system you despise and don’t understand. Bravo, twerp. Hey, why so socialist? Cos you are…Your innate laughable control freak ecofascist bigotry and racism are surgically and empirically dissected here:

    Zombietime com any P.J O’ROURKE thepeoplescube com lookingattheleft com PJTV com drsanity blogspot com dissectleft blogspot com climateaudit org

    eco imperialism com climatedepot com wattsupwiththat com greenhellblog com nipccreport org greenspirit com junkscience com Andrew Bolt blog Herald Sun Tim Blair blog Daily Telegraph steynonline com James Delingpole blog

    margaretsanger blogspot com obamawantsyou com biggovernment com greenhellblogcom

    Culture of Corruption M.Malkin America Alone M.Steyn steynonline com michellemalkin com

    Liberal Fascism J.Goldberg.
    The Death Of the GrownUp D.West roadsassy com The Capitalist Manifesto A.Bernstein Liberty & Tyranny M.Levin eco imperialism com

    colonelrobertneville blogspot com

  • Ah, I just noticed your leftist bedfellow of Islamofascists everywhere bog-standard Israel and Jew hatred articles. Bravo. I knew a Marxist product sodden leftard ecofascist would NEVER dissapoint. Again, five stars for nihilist venality. Carry on, fluffy. Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com.

  • Er, “alternate media” to what exactly? Certainly not the Marxist sodden elitist leftist MSM and the ABC? You’re identical to The Age, SBS etc, and every commercial station etc, so what exactly? So ya leftards. I got that.

    Er, so ya conformist mediocre lovin’ drone phonys like most every celebrity, Hollywood, most media, the government and much of academia. So again, “alt” to what? Ah, an alternative to media itself. Got it. Take zero journalistic standards and hey presto! Leftist ecofascist control freak totalitarian eugenicist propaganda! Bravo, smiley faced fascists. Got it. Nuance.

    Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com.

  • watty

    Why not just one worldwide Pravda style newspaper with YOU as Editor.

    We already have the ‘makings” in the Canberra Press Gallery with Laurie ,Michelle, Malcolm, Hartcher and Co leading the pack.

  • Turbine

    That was about as coherent as one of Krudd’s speeches.

  • krontekag

    “God, who doesn’t need journalism to be objective, would surely not allow something as awful as man-made climate change loose in a world where we can safely rejoice in the wonders of nuclear power, war, cancer, deforestation, genocide, black Nazis, Tim Blair and NSW Labor.”

    I’m not religious. But if there was a God, he would surely weep at the self delusional fools who are “objectively” peddling this non-scientific plan to redistribute wealth.

    For that is all it is and all it ever was.

  • katie

    Delusional is too generous a description of this piffle krontekag, Tim Blair the same as cancer? The Labor Party equal to genocide? The author is barking mad, as his other posts on this site show.

  • Roger Hanney

    Observe closely, gentle reader. Here we have a firsthand example of the P.R. consultant’s strategy of misrepresentation by misassociation. The Labor Party, genocide, Tim Blair, etc. are all in the same sentence, but aren’t actually framed as being the same as or even similar to each other, otherwise, more ridiculously, I would also be saying that nuclear power = black nazis.

    Katie, if you have ‘piffle’ of your own to peddle, please just submit it. If we are so badly anti-progressive, maybe you have insight, analysis, and readworthy writing we so badly lack.
    Although you have commented on articles about the corruption of democracy, destruction of the environment, and global injustice without making any reference to any of these problems.

  • krontekag

    Roger, you are grasping at straws but can’t even pull enough to build a convincing strawman. Sad, but typical of the watermelons’ tactics – shoot the messenger, shut down the debate, or draw it off on a tangent. Protect the meme at all costs.

  • Roger Hanney

    wow. thankyou. totally right, krontekag. i am confused and murky and Ruddy baffling but that’s obviously just my method of meme-defence – a meme of course being a single clear viral idea/message. so you are suddenly insensed because a. climate change/AGW is a left/right wing scam, b. climate change/AGW is an horrific reality yet the proposed governmental response of an ETS/CPRS does nothing significant for the environment and everything for futures traders, c. flaming comment threads is fun, d. all of the above, and you are actually kate (this is my favourite)

  • krontekag

    I’ll take “A” thanks Roger, and clarify that AGW theory is very definitely a left wing vehicle. Too easy.

  • I appreciate your frank reply kront. It saves the need for further discussion because it would be like discussing the theory of evolution with somebody who insists that the Earth is only 12000 years old because they worked it out by adding up all the ages of successive generations named in the Bible. I’m sure you feel the same, and hope you brought a hat.

  • katie

    Gosh Rog, you rise easily. I’m glad krontekag cleared up the confusion in your mind about (d). That worried me too. But as for your suggestion to me (on another thread) that I write more constructively here, forget it. I get paid to to do that, as I assume you do at City Hub. And (again I’m assuming), your work is expected to be coherent, and not drive progressive inner city readers and advertisers away.

    On both, you are failing. That is why I suggested taking that KKK piece down. You may regret leaving it there. I don’t see your print version anywhere any more, so don’t know if it appeared there. I hope not.

    If flaming upsets you (1) Why is there a Comment section under your stories? (2) why do you reply?

  • krontekag

    Don’t mention it Rog.

    And thank you for demonstrating my point perfectly re shutting down the debate. Along the way you see clear to make some assumptions about me that allow you to justify this decision to yourself.

    Incidentally, I subscribe to the theory of evolution, precisely because it is clear, repeatable science, with transparent access to data. That said, I am open to arguments that refine, redefine, or even refute the theory.

    Climate “science”, well there are some issues there aren’t there?

  • Roger

    Kt, LOL. Cheers for the benevolence.

    kront, make the effort if you’re going to pretend that you’re basis is logic. Climate science is repeatable. It’s been done. And one person saying that blue is blue while another insists that it can only be purple isn’t a debate, it’s a waste of time. As you seem to be also arguing that you’re a scientist, maybe you want to contact the IPCC with your well-founded observations. *ahem*
    Leaving the door open for me to leave and you to have the last word.

  • krontekag

    Several very important pieces of climate science might be repeatable if only the original data from the UEA studies underpinning the IPCC report hadn’t been thrown out. But we’ll never know now will we?

    What we do know, according to the scientists’ own words, is that data was manipulated in odd ways, and strategies were employed to deceive, suppress and misrepresent to the public. Freedom of Information Act enquiries were ignored for years (yes I’m looking at you Keith Briffa), and whatever “value-added” data remained was released reluctantly, and only after the incriminating emails surfaced.

    These are not the actions of a group of people confident in their findings and methodology.

    People reviewing this data are, shall we say, often reaching different conclusions to the original studies.

    Merry Christmas Roger.

  • Roger Hanney

    nice work, Patrick. The contingent was actually 64. 114 was the number spruiked by the Coalition’s p.r. brigade, but why let the facts get in the way of good etc.

  • Roger Hanney

    Hey Europeons, I think that when addressing an entire country, plural is the more usual choice – i.e. ‘dipshits.

  • Roger Hanney

    p.s. replies directed to comments not yet visible will make far more sense once some of the evident glitches in the website’s new back-end are worked out.

  • Luke Weyland

    The poor old Colonel seems a little confused. He fails to realise that Islam, fascism and Marxism are not the same thing.He also fails to understand that he should respect people even if they aren’t as ignorant as he is.